Kylie O’Reilly is the Managing Director of the Agency Division for Australian Associated Press (AAP), the national news agency of Australia. Kylie has over 15 years’ experience in the media industry and holds an MBA from the University of Technology Sydney.
Kylie has been the Chairperson of All Together Now for some years, helping to lead the organisation through to some great achievements.
We now interview her about her role in the organisation, her passions and goals before she heads off to run in the Blackmores Sydney Running Festival, this Sunday 20th September, 2015.
All Together Now: You can be a role model of modern woman. Many girls in Australia can take you as an example, how to be successful in life. Can you tell me what story is hidden behind your decision to refocus from Managing Director at AD AAP to the role of a chairperson in not-for-profit organization? Why did you choose anti-racism focus?
Kylie O’Reilly: Firstly, the reason, why I chose to contribute my time as a chairperson to All Together Now, was because I want to do something to make a difference. So, for me was important to be sure, that I can contribute my skills into their work, make a difference into the community. But the most important driver was an ability to participate. My previous experience was very much commercial and corporate, and it’s great, it’s nice to help businesses to make money and to employ people. But, when it gets down to having children and to be a part of a family and a community, I realized that I want to see my children living in a better place. That’s why I chose All Together Now. And I thought, that one of these topics (racism) would be committed to, because it is a hard work, [and] it is not an easy thing to be part of it. It’s not one of the topics, which everyone would easily contribute to, such as animals’ rights, cancer or children, – it is much tougher. As for me, I like challenges and being able to contribute to the good.
ATN: Kylie, if you could compare from the perspective of racial discrimination Australia of your childhood and Australia today, what differences can you list?
Kylie O’Reilly: I think, nowadays we are much more aware. There are two major things. First of all, when I grew up it was a very white Australia, where I was. Australia wasn’t so multicultural. I spent my childhood on the Northern beaches of Sydney and it was a very Anglo-Saxon place. Now, when we are near the beaches it is much more multicultural. I can see that children integrate much more in classes. They ask questions about different religions, different customs and many other things. As a child, I didn’t have any of that. So, I see differences in all of these things that were changed since the time of 30 years ago till now.
I would say that modern Australia is much more integrated. People are more aware now about dangers of racial discrimination. I don’t think that 30 years ago we did understand the impact of racial discrimination, how is it felt like to be an excluded outsider to someone new to the country. Nowadays we are totally aware how harmful that is. So, I think, Australia became very different in that sense.
ATN: As a mother, how do you explain and will explain multicultural differences and diversity to your children? Is it possible to erase racism from Australian society in future, educating a new generation today?
Kylie O’Reilly: Yes, I believe so. I have always believed that it’s possible, because I believe in the strength of acceptance and love. So, for me, why would not I accept everybody’s differences, we are all similar human beings with a heart and a brain…You know, it’s just because you look differently and speak differently to me, it doesn’t mean that we are that different from each other. All these differences are things which need to be celebrated. So, as for me, I will teach my children about it: differences make us unique, there are many things that we should celebrate and be curious about, [and] learn more about. All these things make the world so interesting, [like] when we are travelling, doesn’t it? We get to learn about different cultures and different places, we can learn different things and taste different food and we can immerse ourselves [in] something completely unknown.
ATN: Apart from being a chairperson of All Together Now how do you oppose racism in everyday life?
Kylie O’Reilly: I would say that the first level of racism, that I would see, is joke. People are making jokes. What they think is a joke in the reality is a statement. Basically, it is framing of our culture into a joke. So, for me, I would say that joke is a way of framing the culture. I don’t think that it is much more diverse in that. In everyday living we can frequently hear jokes about Asian drivers or…you know, when people say those kinds of things. To me that is a crazy talk, because I am not my one culture, you are not your one culture. Same as it doesn’t mean that I am a great driver or a bad driver, just because I am a female. For me this is much more complicated now. So, in everyday life racism usually appears in those kinds of comments and inappropriate jokes. Me as a person would stand up and say something about that. And I would try to educate people, why that’s not appropriate.
ATN: It is great to hear you are so active Kylie. Thank you for having this attitude. .
Kylie O’Reilly: It’s the way to be, isn’t it?
ATN: This shows the strength of your character. Not everyone is brave enough to speak up and be opposite to racism.
Kylie O’Reilly: I think, what you can do is to deliver your thoughts through the humor. It doesn’t have to be controversial. It doesn’t have to become confrontational. If I’ll deliver it with actual curiosity and humor, when I say to you: “Why do you say that”? It is not threatening, isn’t it? So, if I can deliver it in non-threatening way, sometimes it can be educational. I think this is what people struggle with sometimes: how to communicate to another person if anything is inappropriate.
ATN: How do you see Australia in 20 years?
Kylie O’Reilly: My vision for Australia in 20 years would be that it’s much more embracing and has different cultural identities. It gets down to a couple of values instead of identities. I would like to think that my children will have multiple kinds of friends of different color, different races and different backgrounds and that’s generally accepted as we become more global. So, that’s what I would like to see in the future. I don’t want to see an Australia where everything is only Anglo and white. In this case we would be very limited and especially in terms of Australian values. So, for me diversity is the way to go.
ATN: Could you, please, share your plans for the future? What projects do you want to realize?
Kylie O’Reilly: Well, my job as a chairperson is to help forming a strategy together with the managing director and a board. Talking on behalf of the board, we are very committed to educating and standing up against racism through education. So, I am very excited about the projects that are useful for children and for teachers. I can comment that they are really great projects to be involved in, because putting yourself in the shoes of somebody else can educate you more as it is like to be a victim of racism. And once you have some empathy to that situation, it helps you to understand more, you are even able to curiously challenge people on their views. So, as for me, I love that project.
I also like how we are associated with sport. It is important, because there is a lot of racism in sport. Sport is a one avenue where people can really embrace each other and come together with the common goal of going to their teams. And I think that to be a part of this and to generate an awareness of All Together Now is really important.
So, our projects are connected with everything that can be put on a plate for educating and helping people to stand up against racism. As an example, we created educational mobile application. And on the other side we would like to associate with sport.
We caught up with our Ambassador Andy Trieu, co-host of PopAsia on SBS2, ahead of his run at the Blackmore’s Running Festival, 20th September, to speak about his passions, racism, and the changing dynamics in Australia’s television and film industry.
All Together Now: First of all, thank you for the opportunity to talk to you and share your experience with all people who are not indifferent to racial problems in Australia.
What helps you to be an Australian actor and at the same time to maintain your historical roots? What difficulties do you face representing Kung Fu Martial Arts culture? Why did you start to master in Kung Fu? Can you tell what story lies behind this passion?
Andy: First of all, I would say that the thing which helps me to maintain my Kung Fu skills is staying in the industry and acting. Kung Fu is my personal drive, such as being inspired by others. Also I am quite competitive. And, so I like to stay competitive with other opponents in Martial arts. And I keep my drive there. And work keeps me routed to my cultural background. My parents are also keep me linked to my culture. I am Vietnamese, but I was born here. So, my parents want me to keep my cultural heritage somehow. It’s my parents really keep me grounded in some way. I love doing Martial Arts and spreading Asian culture in different ways, because Kung Fu and Martial Arts in general are related to Asian culture. Though, to continue doing that, performing Martial Arts in TV shows, in movies is a really cool way to spread Asian culture in some way or form.
ATN: Although Australia is a multicultural country, but there is still a huge problem with racism in schools. When you were a student how did you solve this problem for yourself?
Andy: To answer to the first part of the question about how did I deal with racism at school when I was a kid, I would like to say, that first of all, being from Asian background I hung out with more Asians. I think it was because I felt safer in with them as I had a feeling of belonging to them. And when I didn’t have people of similar cultural background, the way how I dealt with that was to keep it to myself until I was more confident to say something about it. And it was only later on. And I used to tell myself that if they said something racist, [then] they are, probably, not educated about that. They just don’t know. So, my way to deal with racism was having acceptance and knowing that things will get better.
ATN: Was it hard to make friends in this racially diverse atmosphere?
Andy: Some people thought that it was cool to have an Asian friend at that time, so I guess, it wasn’t too difficult. But, of course, when I made friends with people from other Asian cultures, it was fine, it was quite easy. I think, it comes down to your personality sometimes. And even if someone would say something racist, I guess, it is not about being hurt, it is more being positive about it, and all things would be better.
ATN: Now you are a popular media figure. You are the role-model for many teenagers and young adults from with South-East Asian heritage. How do you provide the mature attitude to multicultural diversity through your participation in TV shows? Is that a priority for you?
Andy: Yes, definitely, it is a priority for me. A lot of my Asian actor-friends and Asian people in media industry believe that the more [Asian actors in the industry] the more [the wider-Australian public will] say that “it’s Ok to have Asian faces on TV”. So, I think that the more we do work in TV, the more it becomes acceptable to have multiculturalism in TV shows and things like that.
ATN: You are so active and enthusiastic in your social and professional life. What is your secret?
Andy: I guess, what motivates me everyday is having my personal goals. For example, I really want to make a difference and achieve. When you once have achieved something, at the next stage you want to achieve more. I think that to work hard is a fun to me in its special form.
ATN: But when you get up in the morning, open your eyes and understand: I want to achieve this today,- what makes you motivated?
Andy: Oh, I am gonna say, that I am quite competitive, and I really like to win and to make a difference in some way or form. I believe that, probably, I am not the most talented, but I want to be the most hardworking in my field. I also think that it is important to get more Asian faces in TV. In order to be in this field, you need to work hard, really hard, and to be more dedicated. And as I’ve been doing Martial arts and working in TV industry for so long, around 6-7 years now, I feel that I am getting closer to where I want to be. Thus, I understand, that at this stage I need to work harder and don’t let it go. So, this is my motivation.
ATN: Why did you join ‘All Together Now’?
Andy: First of all, because I personally understand how it feels, as I [have] experienced racism before. I also feel, that there are not enough Asian faces represented as much. When something connected with racism happens, what do people do? Who is going to stand up for you? Who represents that? It was important for me to find an avenue to that. So, I found ‘All Together Now’ and I am ready to tell about this issue.
ATN: What opportunities did friendship with people from diverse ethnic backgrounds open to you? How does it enrich your life?
Andy: This enriches my life so much! All my friends from multicultural background, say like Russian, Asian… They teach me so many new things like food, culture, martial arts, different movies and just everything that enriches my life more and more. Now I feel that dipping your hands in different cultures makes your life worth while.
Episode #9: When someone’s offended you tell them to “take a joke”.
With Australia’s laid back culture, it’s easy to dismiss those offended as uptight people who ‘can’t take a joke’. This often masks the real meaning behind what is said, or intended. The backlash of pointing out that a ‘joke’ is racist can lead to accusations of not being ‘Aussie’ enough. Being light-hearted does not mean accepting racism. Indeed, being Aussie means accepting and enjoying the multi-ethnic diversity of the culture of migrants that make up the modern Australian landscape.